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Blacklist of schools.

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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby Toe Save » 18 Sep 2014, 15:02

Rocket wrote:
Toe Save wrote:HanLin Publishing.

I did not have a good experience with them.


Didn't they even honour your Senior's Discount??? :no-no:



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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby aaamerican » 06 Jan 2015, 17:17

This isn't a blacklist post but more of a warning to new people who don't get the game these schools play.

I recently applied to Sesame Street at a local branch and did swimmingly - the head people there really liked me. I was basically told I had a job, but had to do some mandatory "training" at the head office. This unfortunately was a misuse of English, as it wasn't training but a demo test, but I did not know until too late. This was after doing two demos, (one was really SUBSTITUTE TEACHING but whatever) and having nothing but positivity thrown my way (all in front of actual children who responded very well to me). I was told to prepare my working documents and was given hours and pay information, and told when to report when the training was to be finished.

I got to the main office and did the first day of training, and was promptly told that the next day I was to do another demo where there would be "feedback". This first day of training I thought went fine, although I was told later that the use of my phone was a decider in not getting the job, although I only used my phone briefly at the very beginning to text my GF I made it to the location and to shut off the sound (This is 100 percent the truth). I also took notes and participated in the training.

I prepared for this demo and while I didn't do an excellent job (I got a bit nervous as there was quite a bit to remember), I felt as if I mostly got the idea of what they were looking for. The other candidates did much worse than me, as they didn't even complete the demo correctly. They were searching for someone to really complete a specific method of teaching and didn't want any sort of straying away from this. This teaching method was actually completely different then what I did at the local branch (it had absolutely no similarities whatsoever). I've never taught so rigidly before. It let to the three candidates ultimately being confused and not doing particularly well at the demo.

I was then told they would call the branch and the branch would call me back later that day. I was called back and told I wasn't going to be given a job. It's really unfortunate, as it seemed this was a great job and the people at the branch were very nice, and it was also extremely close to my residence. I also have an inkling that perhaps the demo was not the ultimate decider, and something I did or said was the real decider, so be on your absolute best behavior and don't let your guard down at all.

So the gist or TL;DR I guess is if you apply to Sesame Street, you have to pass the demo at the main office or you won't get a job, and they only train you for 3 hours about how to do a very specific type of demo. Your initial interview is really nothing in the grand scheme of things. This "training" may not happen for 2 or 3 weeks after your initial interview. The people at the branch don't have any say in your hiring beyond the initial demo and brief interview, so don't bother listening to their opinion or getting any sort of feeling of security. Continue to apply to other jobs until this "training" is finished. I got burned and I'm a little salty because I'm a newbie but you can avoid this by taking this "training" extra super serious.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby Bu Lai En » 07 Jan 2015, 15:04

aaamerican wrote:So the gist or TL;DR I guess is if you apply to Sesame Street, you have to pass the demo at the main office or you won't get a job, and they only train you for 3 hours about how to do a very specific type of demo. Your initial interview is really nothing in the grand scheme of things.


Unless you mention the branch, this post is pointless.

Sesame Street is a franchise. Every branch makes different management decisions.

I work at a Sesame Street branch. I never did their training.

If you want to warn against a franchise school, you have to name the branch.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby WolvesMon » 07 Feb 2015, 21:36

I also did a few months at 700 per hour in 2004! No problems.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby unoriginalname » 12 Mar 2015, 09:34

Queen Theodora wrote:Does anyone have up to date info on the AGKsion Language School or Columbia English Language Institute? I'm thinking of applying and can't seem to find any info online.

Apologies if this information is already on this thread, I did a quick scan back to about 2010 but didn't see anything.

Thanks!



If you go to Columbia, I would recommend taking note of the atmosphere among the staff. It seemed pretty negative when I toured the school. I also got the impression that working for that manager would not be a very pleasant experience.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby JohnnyBEdge » 10 May 2015, 16:20

colombia international college of Taiwan. (CICT)
Sorry I cant post the details just yet, but I will soon.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby pacman7331 » 09 Jun 2015, 23:46

Wanted to add this to the blacklist... strange story.

But they specifically told me to move my car right in front of their school, then they gave me like a 10 minute interview. After I left I had a slashed front left tire. But I was on the highway when I noticed it. It was defiantly foul play. Someone must have stabbed my tire with a pocket knife 10 times, and cut along it.

Name of the school is: CKids Educational Organization. It's in Taipei.

They have two locations this is the one I went to first: 1F, No. 16, Lane 70, Kangning Road, Section 3, Donghu, Neihu District, Taipei City

台北市內湖區康寧路三段70巷16號1樓

Then down the street from there taking the first right is the other location, where I parked. That is where my tire got slashed.

I suspect them because the interview was so short, almost no questions, just fill out an application. No demo. Nothing.

Very strange. Don't park your car in front of that school! I have no idea what their problem is, maybe they hate Americans or white people who knows.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby nomad926 » 25 Jun 2015, 01:05

I would like to add Dalton International Education Institute to the blacklist.

After passing two successful demos and offered a contract, I was told to attend a two week mandatory unpaid training. I was less than enthused about the unpaid training and due to my lack of enthusiasm and passive participation, 5 days into the training, I was dismissed over a phone call from head office due to my lack of friendliness. I was observing another teacher teach and did not engage with the students but passively observed and took notes. This came back as an accusation that I didn't have the right attitude.

I would like to warn everyone to avoid this language institution like the plague. They hire happy-go-lucky no-brained attitude over teaching aptitude and knowledge. Please let the brevity of my words serve as a foul warning so that you don't have the same painful experience as I had.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby iamsam91 » 09 Jul 2015, 00:59

Columbia International College Taiwan ( CICT ) and Hanyin Group

Columbia International College Taiwan (CICT) in review
For the record I was a former staff at CICT. I worked for them as a Grade 11 Chemistry, Physics, Functions, and Precalculus teacher this past year (2014-2015). If you’re looking for the short version of this review here, do not work for this company (Hanyin Group), this school, or the Chairman, Allan Lo. He blatantly lies to his staff, his students, and their parents. His only care about education is that it brings him money to go on cruises and holiday, he doesn’t care about anyone he works with nor the future of the students here. The longer version will follow.
To the prospective employee, there is absolutely no way I would recommend this as a workplace for you. If you are remotely professional or are passionate about your job and teaching DO NOT TAKE THIS JOB. No one cares about you as an employee, while you might argue that in Asia most foreign teachers are just a “face” to show the parents of the school, and you may be right, CICT takes it to another level. The communication is non-existent, there is an academic director at the school who refuses to talk with the teachers. If we didn’t know better she would tell us that she doesn’t speak English. Unfortunately for her, her English is very good, fluent, and she is easy to understand. She honestly tries her hardest to have as little contact with “her” staff as possible. At the start of the year we had weekly meetings where the teachers and other staff would discuss the week and problems etc (like no soap in the bathrooms, or toilet paper, misbehaving students, etc) The teachers would constantly bring up the lack of communication and our desire to improve that, the solution: STOP ALL MEETINGS. Not only did they stop meetings but they neglected to tell us that the meetings had ceased. After one teacher attempted to quit, the chairman spoke with her and said the problem would be fixed as he hired a “superintendent” who would serve as the communication between the academic department, the academic coordinator, and the chairman. Unfortunately, he came for 2 weeks, pretended to listen, had an entire office converted for him, then sent us an e-mail saying he had a quick business trip to China. This was in March and we didn’t see him again until the end of June at the students’ graduation. The teacher finally quit and the Chairman told other (already busy staff) to pick up the slack. The more I go on, the more I can say about this place. Please, do not give this man any assistance by working for him. He is an awful person, to top it all off he has no control over being challenged. He shouted at me during a meeting then proceeded to walk out slamming the door like a child because I did not want to sign a contract saying I would pay for a required uniform. If you have any more specific questions about what it is like to be a staff at this place please don’t hesitate to message me.
Now on to what it’s like to the students… Almost everything about this school is based on a lie or an overstretched ideal of how the chairman thinks that a school should visually look to outsiders. However, while working here the opposite of ideal has been true. Not only is the Chairman pocketing significantly more money that necessary, the cost that the students are paying is far greater than the education and life care that they are receiving. The students pay all of these “extra” fees for things that they are required to go to. For example, clubs and tutorial. The students MUST all be a part of 1 club and MUST all go to tutorial from 7-9 pm each night. The students must pay extra for each of these for the staff that are working during those times get no extra compensation. When confronted about this problem the response was “electricity costs”. The students paid an extra “club fee” for each club that once again they were required to sign up for but the club saw no evidence of that sign-up fee. No club got any type of funding from the money they already put into this, and when asked about this specific problem, the response was, “they are rich, you can make them buy anything”.
The meals at the school are another story, the amount is not enough for any active high school student to get full nutrition from, and when confronted about it the school makes the argument “it’s the kitchen not doing what we tell them” in contrast, on days where the chairman has been showing visitors around the school, the lunches miraculously become more plentiful, and better quality. Also a quote from the daughter of the chairman and a fellow teacher and guidance counselor at the school, “ we are trying to get them used to the food at the private school in Canada” by “giving them less” and worse tasting food. But at CIC in Canada the students have the freedom and option to order food on their own or purchase from a panini café. You might think, well the students can just order delivery to their dorms at evening or lunch times. False. The students started doing that when the Chairman butted in and banned students from ordering drinks, meals, or snacks from outside vendors. When the teachers tried helping them to order the Chairman once again told us we were not allowed to give the students food unless approved. The Chairman decided to put in a convenience type store near the lunch room but removed any instant noodles from is in case the students wouldn’t each their lunch if they had the option for instant noodles. There are so many things I could go on about but I think this review would get too long. One final problem was that my students saw how truly deceitful this man was, how empty his promises were, and how big of a joke he was. That weighs on a teacher to see your students so justifiably angry and so unmotivated to learn because they knew that because they had paid their marks were irrelevant.
I can’t stress enough what a truly awful company Hanyin and CICT were to work for. PLEASE DO NOT ACCEPT A CONTRACT. If you happen to be a parent reading this, DO NOT SEND YOUR CHILD HERE, there are other opportunities for him/her. Please message me for any questions.
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Re: Blacklist of schools.

Postby JohnnyBEdge » 10 Jul 2015, 06:22

JohnnyBEdge wrote:colombia international college of Taiwan. (CICT)
Sorry I cant post the details just yet, but I will soon.
Please message me for details



ok so now im finished with this school and surprisingly received all my money from them, so ill leave my review. I was hired to teach physical education, english and social science at CICT campus in Taoyuan city (on contract) and have an "apartment style" living provided. I arrived to the campus actually being located in Longtan Township and was put into an uncleaned dormitory room from a previous school 20 years prior to CICT. School starts a few weeks later and I was given physics/earth sciences, writing, and presentations class to teach while dropping PE. This was all done without notice, no "is this ok with you?" I think to myself "Whatever, ill help them out, its a new school, things are just getting smoothed out." This type of communitcation carried on through the entire year. The curriculum that was supposed to be provided was never given and in fact I was told to make one up for the school. Weekly meetings never produced any results and eventually stopped without notice. A super intendant was supposed to be brought in to help with communcation and getting things done without waiting for the chairman (allan lo) but he never showed after his introduction to the staff. As a result a teacher quit who was fed up with all the above listed problems and more. The big event for me was when Allan Lo handed out contracts stating we were getting taylored suits as a gift but if we quit we were to pay for them (fair enough) however if we didnt sign the contract, turning down the "gift", we would be fined. All the teachers declined and he walked out of the weekly meeting as a result and slammed the door. When I had a personal meeting with him afterwards to discuss it and everything else, he called me a stupid American for turning down a gift. The only reasoned i stayed at this school was for my students, they saw the fakeness of the school and worried about their preparation for college. The last thing i will say is that everything about this school is fake and done to the cheapest of qualities, yet it costs more than my university tuition.
If you interview with the school, ask why 4 out of 5 teachers left and no teachers stayed from the previous year to that. (In fact, ask the school for the emails of all the previous teachers, saying youd like to hear what they have to say) just to see their response. Im willing to bet theyd only give 2 names. Take a good look at the town in which the city is. Its beautful but no social life for a foreigner and no easy transportation unless you buy a motorbike. Feel free to PM me for any specific questions.
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