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Work with two-year associate's (AA) degree and tefl or tesol?

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Re: Work with two-year associate's diploma and tefl or tesol

Postby diplomacyx » 15 Sep 2010, 13:58

Thanks, you guys have made my day :)
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Re: TEFL + Associates

Postby horo36 » 22 Sep 2010, 18:50

funkymonkey wrote:
horo36 wrote:You don't need any paper to teach here.


This is just so painfully wrong...

You need a passport from an English speaking country (U.S., Canada, U.K., Australia, South Africa, etc.) and a B.A. An AA + TESOL is also accepted.



Since when you need a paper (certificate)????

Passport from an English speaking country - yes, to work legally. And that's it.

Unless, you want to teach in some different institution than buxiban, then you may need some papers.
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Re: TEFL + Associates

Postby tomthorne » 22 Sep 2010, 19:06

horo36 wrote:Since when you need a paper (certificate)????

Passport from an English speaking country - yes, to work legally. And that's it.


And a bachelor's degree, or an associate's degree plus TESOL qualification.
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Re: TEFL + Associates

Postby funkymonkey » 22 Sep 2010, 20:48

horo36 wrote:Since when you need a paper (certificate)????


Since the 1900s...

horo36 wrote:Passport from an English speaking country - yes, to work legally. And that's it.


No.
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Re: Work with two-year associate's diploma and tefl or tesol

Postby whitetiger » 22 Sep 2010, 21:22

Even the schools that state a BA as a prerequisite will usually accept a 2 year college diploma + Tesol certificate. AA, AAS or an AS, I can't see any difference and neither will the the government.

You don't need any paper to teach here. Provided you are white, it should be fairly easy. That's the reality.
Legal work is for English native speakers, i.e. passport holders from countries, where English is the main language.

If you don't hold such a passport, then you need a degree in any field (B.A. - doesn't count in this situation, it must be at least M.A.) and you can find a nice job at the university.
Of course there may be many exemptions, depending what your field is.


You've been misinformed, I assure you this is wrong. How would a person from a country, not considered to be an English speaking country, get a job teaching English at a uni?? Well, they wouldn't.
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Re: Work with two-year associate's diploma and tefl or tesol

Postby tomthorne » 23 Sep 2010, 08:24

Horo36 - whoever you are listening to is giving you some seriously incorrect information. As whitetiger says, for a university English instructor position you need to be a native speaker of English with a notarized master's degree plus transcripts, usually of English or in the field of education.

As has already been stated, the Taiwanese take on 'native speaker of English' is a passport holder from the 6 recognised countries.

You also have to have, amongst other things, a notarized copy of your bachelor's degree (or associate's diploma plus a TESOL qualification) plus a passport from the 6 recognised countries to apply for a teaching job in any private school in Taiwan.

You must have noatarized copies of these certificates. If someone arrives in Taiwan who isn't carrying these pieces of paper, they ain't working legally.
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Re: Work with two-year associate's diploma and tefl or tesol

Postby horo36 » 23 Sep 2010, 19:35

whitetiger wrote:Even the schools that state a BA as a prerequisite will usually accept a 2 year college diploma + Tesol certificate. AA, AAS or an AS, I can't see any difference and neither will the the government.

You don't need any paper to teach here. Provided you are white, it should be fairly easy. That's the reality.
Legal work is for English native speakers, i.e. passport holders from countries, where English is the main language.

If you don't hold such a passport, then you need a degree in any field (B.A. - doesn't count in this situation, it must be at least M.A.) and you can find a nice job at the university.
Of course there may be many exemptions, depending what your field is.


You've been misinformed, I assure you this is wrong. How would a person from a country, not considered to be an English speaking country, get a job teaching English at a uni?? Well, they wouldn't.


Well, I have such job and I am not a native speaker. It is legal. How? It depends on your degree, what your major is. And you can get an English teacher job without BA and TESOL* at most if not any buxibans. Almost all people (English native speakers) I know have such jobs without any qualifications.

*It means you don't have to have BOTH.
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Re: Work with two-year associate's diploma and tefl or tesol

Postby tomthorne » 23 Sep 2010, 19:48

You're now correct, horo36. There is no requirement for a bachelor's degree and a TESOL. A noob straight off the plane will need some paper in his/her hand, though. A bachelors, or an associates with a TESOL.

As for getting a teaching instructor job at a uni? All the unis I've looked at have required a masters in English or some field of Education plus what the MOE regard as a native English speaker passport. You have managed to land a job without both of these. Well done, but I would assume it will be difficult for noobs to do this. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm overestimating the Taiwanese higher education system.
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AA degree and TEFL enough to teach?

Postby hyupin » 14 Jul 2012, 05:11

I was told I can teach English with just a AA degree and TEFL. Others have said no so I came on here to find out. Also if I have a AA degree with TEFL well I have a problem finding a job?
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Re: AA degree and TEFL enough to teach?

Postby tomthorne » 14 Jul 2012, 08:43

hyupin wrote:I was told I can teach English with just a AA degree and TEFL. Others have said no so I came on here to find out. Also if I have a AA degree with TEFL well I have a problem finding a job?


I assume that you've read this thread?

To summarise:

1. Yes, AA + TEFL certificate is enough.
2. Finding a job with an associate degree + TEFL is reportedly not much more difficult than finding one with a bachelor's. Some small schools may not be aware of the MOE rules.
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