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Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby Alvisspeaking » 21 Jun 2016, 16:08

RE: Hong Kong Bookseller Finds Associates Challenging His Account of Detention http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/20/world ... world&_r=0

In response to this news, I've written a post about it on my blog: https://alvisspeaking.wordpress.com/201 ... detention/

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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby hsinhai78 » 21 Jun 2016, 20:35

This guy likes attention and being detained by Mainland police fits his narrative. I am sure he will be able to sell his story to gullible college students.
It's not like anybody forced him to leave Hong Kong, so I would assume that he wanted to be detained for his own gains.
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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby rowland » 21 Jun 2016, 20:41

Only one reply in and already a baseless ad hominem smear?

No enemies on the left.
Big government is for those who can't handle freedom. Political correctness is for those who can't handle reality.

Gun-free zones are where the gun violence happens. Ban gun-free zones before many more get killed. Also, gun violence in Europe is as bad as in US, and getting worse.

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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby Alvisspeaking » 22 Jun 2016, 00:16

hsinhai78 wrote:This guy likes attention and being detained by Mainland police fits his narrative.

Sounds like you know this guy :roll: I don't think anyone would want to be detained by Mainland police just in return for any gains perceivable, if any.

It's not like anybody forced him to leave Hong Kong

You realize we're talking about China, and that China is the one who calls the shots in Hong Kong, right? You've never heard of any mysterious disappearances of folks in China (and by extension Hong Kong) who were thought to have been "invited for a cup of tea" by the powers-that-be and then simply vanished?
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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby Alvisspeaking » 22 Jun 2016, 00:26

rowland wrote:Only one reply in and already a baseless ad hominem smear?

No enemies on the left.

Not sure if folks here are following this specific incident, but when the news broke out (last year?) that some booksellers in HK suddenly disappeared for quite a while and then all of a sudden resurfaced and came out to the public claiming they had been "invited" by China to help with a case, I knew something was fishy.

I can never imagine this ever happens in Taiwan.
Glad I am on the right side of the strait.
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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby hsinhai78 » 22 Jun 2016, 00:30

Alvisspeaking wrote:
hsinhai78 wrote:This guy likes attention and being detained by Mainland police fits his narrative.

Sounds like you know this guy :roll: I don't think anyone would want to be detained by Mainland police just in return for any gains perceivable, if any.

It's not like anybody forced him to leave Hong Kong

You realize we're talking about China, and that China is the one who calls the shots in Hong Kong, right? You've never heard of any mysterious disappearances of folks in China (and by extension Hong Kong) who were thought to have been "invited for a cup of tea" by the powers-that-be and then simply vanished?


This guy voluntarily crossed the frontier and entered the Mainland. He knew that his business of sending banned books to the Mainland was an offence under Mainland law. He either has psychological issues or craves the attention of martyrdom.
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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby rowland » 22 Jun 2016, 02:17

hsinhai78 wrote:This guy voluntarily crossed the frontier and entered the Mainland. He knew that his business of sending banned books to the Mainland was an offence under Mainland law. He either has psychological issues or craves the attention of martyrdom.


You really can't conceive of any other possible explanation?

Get outside of your head. It must be horribly dark and stuffy in there.
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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby hsinhai78 » 22 Jun 2016, 07:50

rowland wrote:
hsinhai78 wrote:This guy voluntarily crossed the frontier and entered the Mainland. He knew that his business of sending banned books to the Mainland was an offence under Mainland law. He either has psychological issues or craves the attention of martyrdom.


You really can't conceive of any other possible explanation?

Get outside of your head. It must be horribly dark and stuffy in there.



So what do you think happened ?
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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby Chris » 22 Jun 2016, 09:57

He was exercising freedom of speech, and the commie oligarchy of China, who hate freedom with a passion, had him arrested, during which time they mistreated, interrogated and threatened him. Simple, really.
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Re: Hong Kong Booksellers Abducted by the mainland authorities

Postby Alvisspeaking » 22 Jun 2016, 10:05

Chris wrote:He was exercising freedom of speech, and the commie oligarchy of China, who hate freedom with a passion, had him arrested, during which time they mistreated, interrogated and threatened him. Simple, really.


Yup. That's precisely what happened to him along with other booksellers. However, he's the only one who got the balls to reveal the truth in a public setting.
Good for him and good for Hong Kong.

I pray for the safety of him and his family, though. That defiant act will certainly not go unnoticed for the Big Brother.
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