A Personal Statement from Zain Dean

[fenlander]

Have any of the parties agreed to a lie detector test?

The driver or the main suspect in the case? After all someone is lying here. I'd be keen to do one if I was Dean. The media already thinks he is guilty and if he is innocent ? Yes lie detectors are not fool proof but they are pretty darn accurate these days. He should offer to do one. Then ask the KTV driver if he is also willing? If they both agree then do it.

If the KTV driver refused and Dean says he is willing then it will look good on the part of Dean. He can say he is only willing to do one if the KTV driver is willing too. I bet the KTV driver will refuse. Dean's back is up against the wall so it would be a great strategy. Of course if Dean is really guilty then it would not be such a great idea as those things are hard to fool.

I was falsely accused in Taiwan of robbing my boss's secretary of my own salary lol I went to the cops and offered to do a lie detector test if the accuser did one too. They refused and withdrew all charges while apologizing for getting emotional and making false accusations

(off topic) I heard they are developing those new brain scan detector lie tests and those will be almost 100% accurate.

[I am a City Girl]

Have any of the parties agreed to a lie detector test?
(off topic) I heard they are developing those new brain scan detector lie tests and those will be almost 100% accurate.

As to my knowledge, the lie detector test can only be taken as a reference (correct me, if I am wrong), not treated as an evidence in a trial here. After all, some people can easily pass that test.

As to your story, it sounds like just an allegation in the employment dispute to me as I don't see any physical evidence to file a case in the court.

[fenlander]

Have any of the parties agreed to a lie detector test?
(off topic) I heard they are developing those new brain scan detector lie tests and those will be almost 100% accurate.

As to my knowledge, the lie detector test can only be taken as a reference (correct me, if I am wrong), not treated as an evidence in a trial here. After all, some people can easily pass that test.

As to your story, it sounds like just an allegation in the employment dispute to me as I don't see any physical evidence to file a case in the court.

We will have to find out from a Taiwan lawyer. I had an argument with a secretary of my past employer at the time she was handing over the envelope with my pay. The argument was not related to the pay. Anyway I did not snatch the envelope or anything like that but in the heat of the moment forgot to sign for the pay. She then went to the cops and claimed I had robbed my pay envelope without signing. I told the cops what happened and they said they would only take action if a lie detector test was taken! I agreed and she backed out and gave me all these apologies about having personal problems blah blah blah. Anyway no charges were pressed against her for making a false accusation. That is exactly to a tee what happened.There was no previous relationship or whatever. Her boss later said at the time of the argument I had made her lose face so she was angry. Perhps the police were very smart in this case and knew she was lying and have used this way before to scare off false accusers. That experience put the fear of God into me about 30 year old Taiwanese secretaries lol

So going on that I thought a lie detector might have some meaning in Taiwan. perhaps not. Anyway would it not give him more power or credence in front of the media if he agreed to take one and passed while the driver refuses? Just an idea.

[maoman]

I don't think lie detector tests are that great - I beat them three out of four times in university when I was a guinea pig for hypnosis experiments. I found out two things: I'm not not very susceptible to hypnosis; and lie detectors are extremely fallible. Either that, or I really did kill John F. Kennedy.

[fenlander]

I don't think lie detector tests are that great - I beat them three out of four times in university when I was a guinea pig for hypnosis experiments. I found out two things: I'm not not very susceptible to hypnosis; and lie detectors are extremely fallible. Either that, or I really did kill John F. Kennedy.

You liar lol

Interesting that you beat them. I saw on discovery they have a new one coming out that uses brain scanning technology. Apparently one part of the brain lights up or doesn't light up when you lie. At first I was against these machines but now after this case I am starting to be persuaded. Obviously listening to your account of beating the lie detector they are not good enough yet. However if they become far more accurate that coupled with DNA technology and cameras will likely result in less false convictions.

By the way how did you do it?

[RobinTaiwan]

I believe lie detecting instruments measure physiological changes in someone's breathing rate, pulse, blood pressure, and perspiration level. When people lie, these measurements tend to rise. So when you know you are just testing the machine and lying for the sake of testing the machine, the physiological changes are bound to be a lot less significant. In other words, without the stress associated with REALLY not wanting to be caught lying, the machine is surely a lot easier to fool.

Then again, there are probably ways to set up a good interrogation that would purposely freak out the subject. I'd be interested to know what lie you had to say while you fooled the test.

[I am a City Girl]

I hope for all concerned justice is served

That's true.
But I'd also say that though I noticed Mr. Dean has a Taiwanese lawyer to defend his criminal charge on this case, he should try to prevent any "surprise" in the court during the trial, make sure his lawyer knows everything in details.
( I am saying the surprise here, I am actually referring to his first appearance in the court last week; that is something that didn't make him look any good either in the court or under the camera when he's found out having two different names on different papers.)

[smithsgj]

Feel sorry for the family of course, but what part of "pleading not guilty" is it that they don't get? And the journalists don't seem to understand either. They keep talking about Dean's bad "attitude", but all they appear to mean by this is not admitting guilt.

This other passport in the name of 柯瑞明 is odd too. It's supposed to be an ROC passport then?

[Gman]

Are you sure it is wise to post all this online for everyone to see?

I totally agree with this sentiment. If you had your attorney review and approve this you should strongly consider finding a new attorney ASAP. If you didn't run this by your attorney you are nuts.

[bob_honest]

Well, it was very interesting to read and best of luck to Mr. Dean, however I was wondering also why the other side is given so much material to prepare their legal attack in court.