"God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

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"God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby Mother Theresa » 21 May 2007, 07:02

Anyone else notice the adverts on the sides of buses lately for a "Supreme Master", with a large photo of an un-supreme-looking, middle-aged Asian woman with her hair dyed light blond, so she looks like an ordinary American housewife, but is apparently trying to bilk people out of their hard-earned money for her church? I've seen this funny blond guru before and after googling "Supreme Master" concluded it must be this woman, "God's Direct Contact," Ching Hai:

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Anyone familiar with her? Anyone believe in her? Anyone know someone sucked into her cult?

Anyone know how a person could possibly take seriously someone who calls him/herself a/the Supreme Master?

Here's her website: http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/

And here are some articles on her by a leading cult expert: http://www.rickross.com/groups/suma_ching.html
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Postby TainanCowboy » 21 May 2007, 07:34

Chimg Hai has been doing her scam for at least a dozen years. She has a very large Viet Namese following, especially in southern California.
In 1998-99 I was having some labels designed and printed by a rather large printing company that was Viet owned. As these were coming from scratch I worked closely with a designed/artist they had on staff. He was a very talented, though quite lackadaisical guy. In the course of working with him and the printing company he began to tell me stories about the "Chingers" ashe called them - he was definitely not one of them.

The owner of the company, a Viet woman, had decided to throw her lot in with Ching Hai and wound up with a very sizable contract to do al of her english and Viet language printing. A very large contract. She had posters of CH around the plant, lots CH literature laying around, a "meditation room" for employees to use (Bao went there to sleep) and lots of 'grip&grin' photos of the Boss Lady and the Ching Hai entourage.

I never could figure out what her shtick was, I know she sold lecture tapes and videos, has a perfume and jewelery line and I think was doing some land investing in Viet Nam at that time.
I also know she was declared Persona Non-Grata in Viet Nam shortly after this time. The commies decided she was skimming too much from their take.

She is still a semi-major figure in the so cali Viet community...but one more of derision than any honors.
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Re: "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby maoman » 21 May 2007, 07:35

Mother Theresa wrote:Anyone know how a person could possibly take seriously someone who calls him/herself a/the Supreme Master?

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Postby Buttercup » 21 May 2007, 09:08

Those guys have a 'shop' on Songshan Road.
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Postby Mother Theresa » 21 May 2007, 09:26

"It looks to me like one of the fastest-growing cults in the world," says Dr. Margaret Singer, perhaps the country's first and foremost cult expert. Dr. Singer, who has been following modern cults since their appearance in the late 1950s . . . considers Ching Hai unusual only in that most large, far-reaching organizations are led by men. . .

Only within the last nine or ten months has she begun receiving calls from men and women. . . almost all from San Francisco and San Jose-- who have lost their spouses to the Ching Hai organization. . . Singer says that the callers also complained about the tremendous sums of money their spouses gave to the Ching Hai organization. . .

A tireless publicity seeker, Ching Hai never misses an opportunity to gain credibility and clout for her organization. She often claims to have been invited to the conspicuously prestigious locations for her lectures--Georgetown University, UCLA and the United Nations buildings in Geneva and New York--but rarely says by whom. . . In Taiwan, the story goes, Ching Hai even set up two front organizations to bestow awards upon her in a public ceremony. . .

Ching Hai's knack for self-promotion shines in her official biography, which . . . is a paean to the Master's humility, humanitarian efforts and impressive output of saleable products. . .

. . . the Supreme Master was born Hue Dang Trinh on May 12, 1950, in a small village in Vietnam. . . Trinh then moved to India to study Buddhism. It was here that she became a prize pupil of Thakar Singh.

"Thakar Singh turned out to be the most scandalous guru. . . had embezzled money, indulged in sexual affairs with numerous women, and had engaged in violent interactions with disciples. . . But by the time Singh's crimes came to light, Ching Hai had already learned from him the "light and sound" meditation technique, and had left for Taiwan.

. . .in Taiwan, in 1983, Trinh studied with a Buddhist nun named Xing-jing. . . Returning to Taiwan in 1986, Ching Hai lured followers away from her former master, Xing-jing, and set up a makeshift temple in an apartment in the Taipei suburbs. . .

And now she is among us in San Jose . . . Cries of adoration greet Ching Hai when she appears in the portals of Gate A8. As she walks, her path is strewn with flowers, prostrate bodies and outstretched hands. She smiles modestly. Once outside, she is escorted into the back seat of a black Isuzu Trooper. She waves to the undulating crowd as the car speeds away, heading for the nearby Red Lion Hotel. For the next hour, the short-term parking lot of the San Jose Airport is jammed with cars heading for the exit to follow her. . .

"Thank you for your love. I don't know if I'm good enough for you." She sighs. "I just try to be ordinary citizen. Then someone must come along and remind me I am Supreme Master Suma Ching Hai!" All laugh heartily. . .

Ching Hai wraps up her talk well after midnight. She makes her last rounds through the audience, touching a head here, smiling beatifically there. A black man in African garb shrinks in his seat as she passes, his hands clasped together in worship, sobbing in great gasps, looking into the Master's face while tears stream down his. . .

According to Millar, the Master's clothing and jewelry are "very expensive, but it's very high quality." In the same breath, Millar also tells me that when the Master wishes to donate money to charities, she establishes a bank account to which followers can contribute. God has certainly been kind to Ching Hai: in 1993, her Los Angeles branch alone took in $395,518. . .

The interview is done, and the Master and I shake hands. . . "You were so close, right next to her," a wide-eyed girl exclaims, stroking my shoulder.

It occurs to me that I may now be seen on a videotape in the Ching Hai library: the American reporter conducting an interview with the Supreme Master. Our words may end up on a Web site, or in the Suma Ching Hai magazine, or condensed into an aphorism in a book. Against my will, I had become another prop in Ching Hai's magic show. . .

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro ... -9613.html

In Taiwan she reportedly has 300,000 followers. However, when the government closed down her headquarters (it had been constructed without a license), the sect produced a membership list of only 804 names. . .

The secretary-general of the Taoist Association says he has information that she has bought up vast tracts of land in Cambodia. Master Chinhsing, a Buddhist monk of Vietnamese origin who may have been Ching Hai's mentor, disapproves of her departure from the austere ways of Buddhist tradition. He has reportedly warned her never to identify herself as his former student. . .

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -2,00.html
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Postby kate.lin » 21 May 2007, 09:45

One of my friend's GF is her follower.
Sometimes we like to tease her religion, but usually, it turns out to be a fierce debate.
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Postby Mother Theresa » 21 May 2007, 09:49

kate.lin wrote:One of my friend's GF is her follower.
Sometimes we like to tease her religion, but usually, it turns out to be a fierce debate.


Do you have any idea how much money she has given to the organization?

Have you ever discussed with her that it seems odd for a religious guru who is supposedly devoted to charitable causes to be so concerned about her physical appearance, to dress in expensive clothing and wear expensive jewelry (aside from the expensive houses she undoubtedly owns and other riches)?
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Postby Chris » 21 May 2007, 10:52

Ching Hai is evil cult.
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Postby kate.lin » 21 May 2007, 11:12

Chris wrote:Ching Hai is evil cult.


What do you define 'Evil' cult here?

My friend's GF thinks she is benevolent!
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Postby kate.lin » 21 May 2007, 11:19

Do you have any idea how much money she has given to the organization?


She is from and well-to-do family which denotes huge amount of money to her but no excat number was revealed.

Have you ever discussed with her that it seems odd for a religious guru who is supposedly devoted to charitable causes to be so concerned about her physical appearance, to dress in expensive clothing and wear expensive jewelry (aside from the expensive houses she undoubtedly owns and other riches)?


I don't think people could be reasonable when it comes to religion.
She always can find excuses for her guru every time we challenge her.
But to be frank, my friend's GF is a nice girl.
She finds her spiritual support from her Ching-hai guru seems not that bad.
Anyway, as long as she is happy and, then it is harmless with us.
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