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Huji and marriage

Postby Hokwongwei » 16 Jan 2014, 18:56

When foreigners get married to Taiwanese citizens, do they have to choose a permanent address? My understanding is that foreigners are not part of the hukou system, but ARCs do have an address at the bottom.

(I ask because my fiancee's family has a bunch of people on their huji already, and it wouldn't make sense for my ARC to be there anyway since I'm living and working in Taipei.)
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby cfimages » 16 Jan 2014, 19:03

I'm on my wife's listed as her spouse. It's now at our current address since we bought a place but while we were still renting we were both on her sister's.

Edit - when we were on her sister's, my arc had the address we lived at it, not her sister's address.
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby Taffy » 17 Jan 2014, 10:49

As cfi says, you will be registered on your wife's hukou mingbu, but the address on your ARC will be your current residence.
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby spaint » 27 Feb 2014, 14:58

It's the most retarded system imaginable. When you have kids (and someone correct me if I'm wrong here) they'll only be eligible for enrollment in state schools in the district of your wife's hukou. Which isn't much help if you live and work in one city while her hukou is in another.
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby headhonchoII » 27 Feb 2014, 15:23

It is retarded and ultra controlling. Cities and counties like to hold on to your Hukou as they get more tax revenue and power from that.

Also, you will not be entitled to social benefits if there is property or land associated with the Hukou, even if you are a single mother and you have no assistance from family.
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby hsinhai78 » 27 Feb 2014, 20:52

Hokwongwei wrote:When foreigners get married to Taiwanese citizens, do they have to choose a permanent address? My understanding is that foreigners are not part of the hukou system, but ARCs do have an address at the bottom.

(I ask because my fiancee's family has a bunch of people on their huji already, and it wouldn't make sense for my ARC to be there anyway since I'm living and working in Taipei.)


Judging from the replies to this post there seems to be a lot of confusion.

being on a Huji =/= being mentioned on it

When you as a foreigner marry a ROC national with household registration in the Free Area your name will be put into the comments section, but not in the column to the very left that lists people holding registration. As a foreigner the entire system is irrelevant to you aside from transcripts serving as proof of marriage. Your current address is maintained by the NIA and it has to be current and correct.

Anything else is drivel.
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby Charlie Phillips » 27 Feb 2014, 22:47

hsinhai78 wrote:
Hokwongwei wrote:When foreigners get married to Taiwanese citizens, do they have to choose a permanent address? My understanding is that foreigners are not part of the hukou system, but ARCs do have an address at the bottom.

(I ask because my fiancee's family has a bunch of people on their huji already, and it wouldn't make sense for my ARC to be there anyway since I'm living and working in Taipei.)


Judging from the replies to this post there seems to be a lot of confusion.


Not at all. Within a few posts from wise and experienced virtuous forumosans the OPs question was answered.

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hsinhai78 wrote:Anything else is drivel.


Including your post.
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby StevenCrook » 28 Feb 2014, 08:10

spaint wrote:When you have kids (and someone correct me if I'm wrong here) they'll only be eligible for enrollment in state schools in the district of your wife's hukou. Which isn't much help if you live and work in one city while her hukou is in another.


It seems to depend which school you want to send your kids too. Most in the Tainan area will accept you regardless of address because the birth-rate is low and they have space. A few of the more popular ones enforce the residence requirement, AFAIK.
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Re: Huji and marriage

Postby hsinhai78 » 04 Mar 2014, 09:42

Charlie Phillips wrote:
hsinhai78 wrote:
Hokwongwei wrote:When foreigners get married to Taiwanese citizens, do they have to choose a permanent address? My understanding is that foreigners are not part of the hukou system, but ARCs do have an address at the bottom.

(I ask because my fiancee's family has a bunch of people on their huji already, and it wouldn't make sense for my ARC to be there anyway since I'm living and working in Taipei.)


Judging from the replies to this post there seems to be a lot of confusion.


Not at all. Within a few posts from wise and experienced virtuous forumosans the OPs question was answered.

hsinhai78 wrote:Irrelevant reactionary 1950s style Nationalist party who lost the war racist diatribe deleted


hsinhai78 wrote:Anything else is drivel.


Including your post.



No. Some people here seem to believe that foreigners will have household registration. But that is not the case. Foreigners will merely be listed in the comments column next whomever they are married to. That is a very important distinction.

And neither was my post drivel or reactionary propaganda: the concept of Free Area becomes very real to any foreigner naturalising as for the first 1-2 years he/she won't have registration in the Free Area and be off worse than a foreigner.
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