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Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby headhonchoII » 21 Nov 2014, 12:52

That means there is no obligation, you can of course request vacation time before signing a contract.
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby the bear » 21 Nov 2014, 13:27

People this is not vacation time, its statutory holidays i.e. weekends. In translations I've done of HR manuals regulations are that you continue to observe work hours of the company while on business trips. That means weekends are your own time. Of course if you're working for wankers they might try and tell you you have no personal time. They might also tell you you have to clean the toilets. How you respond to that is your own affair. Unfortunately most gutless local workers do what they're told which is why Taiwanese companies are hell to work for.
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby cfimages » 21 Nov 2014, 14:09

It's not just Taiwanese companies. It's the way of the world in the era of global free market economies. For as long as I can remember (and I'm in my forties), in Australia unpaid overtime has been the norm. Twenty years ago, the average worker was doing ten hours a week unpaid. I'm not sure how many hours it is now but a recent article in the Australian media said that it was getting worse with AU$121 billion per year in unpaid work being done by Australian workers.
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby headhonchoII » 21 Nov 2014, 16:38

Australia and UK and US aren't great when it comes to this, but at least you can get paid pretty well. The British company I worked for let you work at home or take a day or two off. The multinational I work for has different rules in different countries,
in Taiwan they pretty much follow Taiwan working culture, in British they give them a couple of days off and can work from home more, in Japan they work to death and in America they are working more and more days as the company cuts back on optional holidays. Meanwhile the chairman takes more and more stock options and waits to cash out.
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby Kaalund » 24 Nov 2014, 11:32

I'm working for a local Taiwanese company. Been working in this company for around a year now. All I'm asking is compensation for the weekends during my business trip. I think it is VERY reasonable request. I want to know what the labor law says about this. Whether I want to enforce the labor law or not is another matter.
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby finley » 24 Nov 2014, 11:42

OrangeOrganics wrote:Taiwanese staff probably just wouldnt have asked.

That's what I thought. Unless you've got something very specific scheduled for the weekend, why even bother asking? If you have to go to a trade show, do that in the morning and then bugger off after lunch when the exhibitors are getting bored and tired anyway. If you ARE the exhibitor ... well, not unreasonable for them the expect you to actually attend.
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby the bear » 24 Nov 2014, 11:56

finley wrote:
OrangeOrganics wrote:Taiwanese staff probably just wouldnt have asked.

That's what I thought. Unless you've got something very specific scheduled for the weekend, why even bother asking? If you have to go to a trade show, do that in the morning and then bugger off after lunch when the exhibitors are getting bored and tired anyway. If you ARE the exhibitor ... well, not unreasonable for them the expect you to actually attend.


That's a good point; if you work in sales and marketing and travel overseas to trade shows obviously you work to the exhibition schedule. But there are certain cover-alls in the Labor Standards Law i.e. you have to take off one day in seven or 2 days in 14.
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby tom1807 » 28 Nov 2014, 13:42

Weekend no, but if you are on business trip and back home in Taiwan is a holiday, then you can get it off.
But don't ask me about the holidays on weekend, like CNY or 2/28/2015 (Yes 2/27 is bridge holiday, so you can get it off when you return, but Saturday not very likely)
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Re: Time off for the weekends in spend during business trip.

Postby dondada » 22 Jul 2016, 10:49

I've been working for a large Taiwanese public company for about 7 months now as Sales and have regular travel around the world to attend exhibitions and client meetings. I recently spoke to the HR asking what the compensation is for all the non-working days I have been abroad. So far the tally is 20 days I have been abroad working or traveling on non-working days.

I understand they won't be willing to pay those 20 days as overtime, so I suggested that for every 2 non-workdays I have been out of the country, they allow me to take 1 day paid leave. As it is my first year I officially do not have any paid vacation days.

The HR recently got back to me and said she checked with other Taiwanese companies and their policy is not to pay anything extra (no overtime pay and no paid time off), unless I am attending an exhibition on say a weekend and have photos to prove it. Traveling and other business commitments on non-working days are not compensated.

I have checked the Labor Standards Act and read replies to this post but still can't find anything definitive which states what I am entitled to in this situation.

Anyone else have any similar experience? Or know what the law says I am entitled to? Thanks in advance for any help!
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