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30 days notice = fired!

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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby yyy » 05 Jan 2016, 13:50

strider wrote:I gave my 30 days to my boss, she was so friendly and nice, always has been, promised that of course even if she finds replacement right away she will tell them they need to wait until next month the 13th, etc. Next day, I get a message "you better find a new job right away, I found replacement for you, no need to come to work anymore."

Isn't this illegal? What can I do? I REALLY needed this last month of work to pay for the move.

How did things turn out? (This thread was recently mentioned in another thread.)
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby tommy525 » 05 Jan 2016, 15:14

You give your 30 days notice when you are ready to go immediately ! That should be the way to do things in future.
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby headhonchoII » 05 Jan 2016, 19:04

Maybe irrelevant but in American we've had colleagues being walked out of the office on same day after telling management of intention to quit. Sometimes they are not allowed touch their computers. That's crazy.
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby hsinhai78 » 05 Jan 2016, 21:53

headhonchoII wrote:Maybe irrelevant but in American we've had colleagues being walked out of the office on same day after telling management of intention to quit. Sometimes they are not allowed touch their computers. That's crazy.


And in America the company continues paying the salary for the required minimum statutory time, i.e. 30 days from the employee having given notice. They simply do not want someone around who will leave anyways and whose loyalties may not be certain anymore. But the difference is that American companies pay for the luxury of getting rid of you the same day and generally comply with labor law. Taiwanese companies need the stick before they comply.
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby headhonchoII » 05 Jan 2016, 21:58

Good point.
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby hsinhai78 » 05 Jan 2016, 22:06

headhonchoII wrote:Good point.


OP should reply his boss that as per contract stipulations he wishes continue until the last day. Her reply will give him more leverage.
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby dan2006 » 06 Jan 2016, 00:12

headhonchoII wrote:Maybe irrelevant but in American we've had colleagues being walked out of the office on same day after telling management of intention to quit. Sometimes they are not allowed touch their computers. That's crazy.


I worked for a company in Canada that did that, advise them you were quitting and they would walk you out, with pay of course.

I always thought it stupid, since everyone knew that would happen, anyone that wanted to steal company secrets would do so before they gave notice of resignation, so it was not like it was some amazing crime fighting idea
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby tommy525 » 06 Jan 2016, 01:03

Many companies in the USA now stipulate that you are an "at will" employee. There is no need for any notice to be given by either party.

A popular GM of ours was let go quite suddenly. On a Monday morning he got a phone call from his boss and was fired over the phone. He came around to say bye to some of us. I asked him who is going to replace him. He said "see that guy coming out of his car, that is your new GM". They wasted not even one minute. He was out and the new guy (someone from out of state none of us knew) was in. He was told the company wanted to move in a "new direction". No excuse of any kind was even needed.

He had to call his wife to come get him as he was relieved of his company car with immediate effect as well. They wouldn't even let him keep it for a week or something.

He basically was told "you are being replaced, get your things out of your office and leave your car where you parked it, turn in your key, you have about an hour, goodbye and thank you, your final check will be in the mail".

It's not "better" being fired in America in many cases.

Unless you are a famous manager of a football team with a solid contract that stipulates how much you get if you are fired. That could be worth MILLIONS>
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby headhonchoII » 06 Jan 2016, 07:35

That's brutal Tommy. but you wonder did the GM do the same to his staff too.
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Re: 30 days notice = fired!

Postby hsinhai78 » 06 Jan 2016, 10:12

tommy525 wrote:Many companies in the USA now stipulate that you are an "at will" employee. There is no need for any notice to be given by either party.

A popular GM of ours was let go quite suddenly. On a Monday morning he got a phone call from his boss and was fired over the phone. He came around to say bye to some of us. I asked him who is going to replace him. He said "see that guy coming out of his car, that is your new GM". They wasted not even one minute. He was out and the new guy (someone from out of state none of us knew) was in. He was told the company wanted to move in a "new direction". No excuse of any kind was even needed.

He had to call his wife to come get him as he was relieved of his company car with immediate effect as well. They wouldn't even let him keep it for a week or something.

He basically was told "you are being replaced, get your things out of your office and leave your car where you parked it, turn in your key, you have about an hour, goodbye and thank you, your final check will be in the mail".

It's not "better" being fired in America in many cases.

Unless you are a famous manager of a football team with a solid contract that stipulates how much you get if you are fired. That could be worth MILLIONS>


Employment laws tend to be more liberal in the case of senior positions and stringent for the average worker or staff.
Yet most Taiwanese SMEs fail to comply with the most basic regulations of the already rather employer-friendly Labor Standards Act.
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