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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby BrentGolf » 23 Jun 2016, 17:23

Why do they have to be on "the left" though? There's lots of people on the right that hate Trump. For all we know, half those comments were from Republicans. :)

But yeah, there's a lot of millennials that don't seem to know what literally means. To them it's just a stress word. He's really dumb. She's super pretty. He's LITERALLY Hitler. Uh no.
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby MikeN » 23 Jun 2016, 17:43

ChewDawg wrote:He's authoritarian and nasty in his campaigning. :popcorn: He will tear Hillary a new one! :lol: No surprise here---his mentor in the 1970s? The legendary, tough as nails, enemy of Robert Kennedy, right hand man of Joe McCarthy in the 1950s--Roy Cohn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn
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A lot of Trump's character was formed by this legendary lawyer.


Truer words were never spoken.

Actor Charlie Sheen recently called out The Donald for the ruse, saying Trump once gave him his own cuff links as a wedding present and boasted that they came from one of the city’s leading jewelers.

“He says . . . ‘I want to give you an early wedding gift as a gesture from me and Melania’ — and she doesn’t say a word, she’s very sweet and very pretty but just kinda sits there,” Sheen told the BBC, referring to a time he ran into Trump and his wife in a restaurant about five years ago.

“He says, ‘These are platinum diamond Harry Winston,’ and he pulls off his cuff links, and he gives them to me.”


The actor said he took the links to an appraiser six months later, only to learn that they were worthless.

“She took [her magnifying] loupe, spent about 4 seconds and kind of recoiled from it,” Sheen quipped. “She says, ‘In their finest moment, this is cheap pewter and bad zirconias.’ And they’re stamped ‘Trump.’”

The real estate mogul pulled the same stunt on his mentor, famed late pitbull lawyer Roy Cohn, years earlier, according to another report.

Trump gave Cohn a pair of “diamond-encrusted’’ cuff links and buttons in a box from famed jeweler Bulgari as a present, said the New York Times.

Cohn’s partner, Peter Fraser, who inherited the items, said he later had them appraised, and they turned out to be knock-offs.


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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby lostinasia » 23 Jun 2016, 20:11

BrentGolf wrote:But yeah, there's a lot of millennials that don't seem to know what literally means. To them it's just a stress word. He's really dumb. She's super pretty. He's LITERALLY Hitler. Uh no.

Yeah. Those dumb millennials, using "literally" to add emphasis, just like Twain, Fitzgerald, and Joyce. Kids today just don't know how to write.
As is often the case, though, such "abuses" have a long and esteemed history in English. Tom Sawyer wasn't turning somersaults on piles of money when Twain described him as "literally rolling in wealth," nor was Jay Gatsby shining when Fitzgerald wrote that "he literally glowed," nor were Bach and Beethoven squeezed into a fedora when Joyce wrote in Ulysses that a Mozart piece was "the acme of first class music as such, literally knocking everything else into a cocked hat." Such examples are easily come by, even in the works of the authors we are often told to emulate.

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By the late 17th century, though, literally was being used as an intensifier for true statements. The Oxford English Dictionary cites Dryden and Pope for this sense; Jane Austen, in Sanditon, wrote of a stormy night that, "We had been literally rocked in our bed." In these examples, literally is used for the sake of emphasis alone.


The word's got different meanings, and has had those meanings for a few hundred years. It's up there with split infinitives and not ending sentences with a preposition as common pet peeves that aren't actually wrong.

(Still doesn't excuse anyone who produces a sentence like "Trump is literally Hitler.")
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby Tempo Gain » 23 Jun 2016, 22:18

Trump is Hitlery literal.
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby BrentGolf » 13 Jul 2016, 02:24

Could the Trump family be any more of an embarrassment to America? I think he was home schooled by his father. Neither speaks above a 4th graders head...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-tr ... 00077.html

Funny, I've not ever heard "the American dream" refer to people who inherit a 200 million dollar company (1.2 billion inflation adjusted) at the age of 25 and then underperform a buy and hold bond portfolio.


Trump 2016 ! Forget making America great again. The real reason to vote Trump is the faster America hits rock bottom the sooner the recovery can start? Or something like that...
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby Icon » 26 Jul 2016, 16:13

So what? He's got the Evangelicals on his side. No matter what he is/does.

Someone agrees with me in terms of the likelihood of a Trump presidency. Say it ain't so.

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And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it’s hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November – who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who’s the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking ass all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot? That’s right. That’s the high level of danger we’re in. And don’t fool yourself — no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.


People who are not unenthusiastic about Hillary are downright antagonistic. Our goose is cooked. Unless there is some kind of miracle, which at the eleventh hour... dunno.

and the anger that so many have toward a broken political system, millions are going to vote for Trump not because they agree with him, not because they like his bigotry or ego, but just because they can. Just because it will upset the apple cart and make mommy and daddy mad. And in the same way like when you’re standing on the edge of Niagara Falls and your mind wonders for a moment what would that feel like to go over that thing, a lot of people are going to love being in the position of puppetmaster and plunking down for Trump just to see what that might look like. Remember back in the ‘90s when the people of Minnesota elected a professional wrestler as their governor? They didn’t do this because they’re stupid or thought that Jesse Ventura was some sort of statesman or political intellectual. They did so just because they could.
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby Mucha Man » 26 Jul 2016, 20:23

BrentGolf wrote:..Trump 2016 ! Forget making America great again. The real reason to vote Trump is the faster America hits rock bottom the sooner the recovery can start? Or something like that...


:lol: I think that's pretty much it.
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby Winston Smith » 26 Jul 2016, 21:11

The lack of enthusiam for business as usual is a real head scratcher. Maybe Brexit is catching.
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 27 Jul 2016, 07:14

BrentGolf wrote:Trump 2016 ! Forget making America great again. The real reason to vote Trump is the faster America hits rock bottom the sooner the recovery can start? Or something like that...


It's funny that you mention this. That's one of the main reasons that I'm optimistic about the prospect of a Clinton presidency: she will be so outrageous that she will provoke a reaction before the USA turns into the Brazil of the north. With anyone else, that outcome would be all but guaranteed because the frog would be boiled too slowly. At this point in the game, acceleration may be the only solution.

There's also a theory that the reason Peter Thiel has so openly endorsed Trump (aside from potentially standing to gain a great deal personally by being one of the only people in Silicon Valley to do so) is that he is actually playing a much deeper game.

From the article: 'I think Peter Thiel supports Donald Trump because he believes it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to weaken America's attachment to democratic government.

I'm not accusing Thiel of any ambitions he hasn't more or less copped to. In an often-quoted 2009 essay, Thiel declared, "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible."'

If this is the case, and that outcome eventuates, then well played by Peter Thiel.
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Re: Let's talk about Trump

Postby MikeN » 27 Jul 2016, 11:10

From the "You can't make this shit up" Department, guess who's suing Trump for chiseling them on a deal?
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The “USA Freedom Kids,” a cheese-ball youth performance troupe, appeared at a Trump rally last summer and became an instant sensation, partly because of the contrast between the adorableness of the performers and the quasi-fascistic undertones of their lyrics (such as “Deal from strength or get crushed every time”). Jeff Popick, the group’s (adult) manager, told Claire Landsbaum he was attracted to Trump not only for reasons of customer synergy but also personal conviction — “[Trump] knows what he's doing, and he makes the right decisions,” Popick explained.

You’ll never guess what happened next. Yes, Trump refused to pay the group for its time and expenses, reports Philip Bump. First, the USA Kids were told they could have a free table to sell CDs instead of $2,500, they accepted the deal, and no such table was provided. Then they were asked to fly to Iowa to appear at Trump’s rally to help veterans, and not only were they not paid, but Trump failed to reimburse the cost of their travel.


Hey, Jeff :“Deal from strength or get crushed every time”

You and your adorable daughter and her friends weren't dealing from strength, so you got crushed by Donald.
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