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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby rowland » 31 Mar 2016, 12:58

Zla'od wrote:Also he's often compared to Hitler.

"Compared to whom?"

Hitler, I said!


Everybody gets compared to Hitler by somebody sooner or later.
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby Abacus » 31 Mar 2016, 22:52

rowland wrote:
Abacus wrote: I might disagree with the policies that Bernie, Hillary or Cruz have put forth but they have at least said something concrete instead of complete vagueness.

It would be an interesting exercise to lay out the policy proposals of any one of these to examine in toto. I think we'll find there's less than meets the eye.

I remember when people told me that if you want specifics on Il Douche's proposals, just go to the campaign website. The joke was that the campaign website was also vague and contradictory.

Now if we can get the Mexicans to pay for Bernie's welfare state, we'll be in business.


Based on this answer I am not sure you actually have any idea what Trump's policies are. Bernie has actually laid out plans pretty well although I disagree with some of his plans. Cruz has also been very consistent with what he plans to do although I strongly disagree with much of his platform. Hillary is rather wishy washy and is being called out for it.

Trump on the other hand is rallying the troops by shouting about what is wrong with the US but not actually saying how he is going to solve the problems. His solution never goes beyond 'I'm a winner' or 'I'm a negotiator, it's what I do'.

What are his actual policies for solving the problems?
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby rowland » 06 Apr 2016, 11:24

Abacus wrote: Bernie has actually laid out plans pretty well


About that...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... d=pm_pop_b
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby Abacus » 06 Apr 2016, 22:28

rowland wrote:
Abacus wrote: Bernie has actually laid out plans pretty well


About that...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... d=pm_pop_b


Basically at this point I am going to assume that you don't actually know any of Trump's plans if he were to be elected president beside his 40 or 50 foot reinforced concrete wall that he is going to build.

That article focused on one thing that Bernie has proposed without any actual policy to accomplish it. Bernie has pretty clearly laid out plans on how to pay for free college. He has also laid out clear plans for a single payer health care system among other things. Agree or disagree it is easy to see where how stands and how he plans to accomplish most things. Trump has stated almost no actual policy and is constantly changing his answer when pressed on stuff that doesn't make any sense or is just flat out wrong.
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby rowland » 22 Jul 2016, 21:42

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... d-and-wou/

This is why Trump wins: history has weakened his opponents. The Republican mainstream was undone by Bush, the Democrats by Obama and the politics of identity. All Hillary has to run on is that she's a woman. Seriously, that's it. It's embarrassing to watch her suck up to a gender that doesn't even particularly like her.

Who is worse? Donald or Hillary? On Thursday night, Trump may have begun a winning campaign to convince America that the answer is Clinton. It was a speech for its time. A sad time.


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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby Mucha Man » 22 Jul 2016, 22:12

rowland wrote:...The Republican mainstream was undone by Bush, the Democrats by Obama and the politics of identity


The problem with this is that you could write the democrats were undone by Obama being a Muslim atheist socialist Kenyan and about as many people would nod their heads and say yep that were the thing that done it.
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby Tempo Gain » 23 Jul 2016, 09:37

rowland wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/22/donald-trump-is-the-perfect-candidate-for-todays-debased-and-wou/



The religious right is over. God stayed at home... Trump has stripped all the culture war out of the GOP,


At least somebody in the UK is paying a little closer attention

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2016/ ... secularism

All you need to compare Trump to is himself.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby Chris » 23 Jul 2016, 11:40

Trump is still anti-gay and anti-abortion. The culture war waged on America by the religious right is still not over. Trump will just be a tool that the religious right will use to advance their goal of turning the US into a theocratic dictatorship.

Want to end the culture war and safeguard our freedoms? We need liberals on the Supreme Court.
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby Chris » 23 Jul 2016, 13:10

rowland wrote:He's a blowhard. Compared to whom?

He's a braggart. Compared to whom?

He's a bigot. Compared to whom?

He's ignorant. Compared to whom?

He's inconsistent. Compared to whom?

He's delusional. Compared to whom?

He's untrustworthy. Compared to whom?

He's got no respect for the Constitution. Compared to whom?

He's a dangerous demagogue. Compared to whom?

His proposals make no sense. Compared to whose?

He's a liar. Compared to whom?

He's politically incorrect. Compared to... wait you actually think that's a bad thing?

Compared to pretty much every decent person on the planet.
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Re: Compared to whom: the answer to most Donald criticisms

Postby Winston Smith » 23 Jul 2016, 18:26

Chris wrote:. . . Trump will just be a tool that the religious right will use to advance their goal of turning the US into a theocratic dictatorship.

Want to end the culture war and safeguard our freedoms? We need liberals on the Supreme Court.


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