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Re: Brexit

Postby headhonchoII » 27 Jul 2016, 08:24

Talking about strangely mute, there's an active thread with the title

'Stupid, racist Australians'.

Thought you might like to check it out. For one reason or another. :lol:
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Re: Brexit

Postby Mucha Man » 27 Jul 2016, 12:12

GuyInTaiwan wrote:
Mucha Man wrote:
GuyInTaiwan wrote:...Stop concern trolling everyone that you care about what happens in the best interests of the English when it's pretty clear you have an irrational hatred of them.


I'm going to use this exact line, with a few minor changes, next time you go on about the need for Islam to reform.


Because obviously the English were killing the Irish just last week...

Nice false equivalency.


You need to stop using stock phrases for everything. Makes you look trollish.

I'm not concerned about what's in the best interests of Muslims. I'm concerned about what's in the best interests of the rest of the world, particularly the West, that has been suffering them for well over a millennium.

Since we're talking about your excuses for that religion, remember when Dylann Roof killed nine people and all the outrage, the flags and monuments coming down, the attack on an entire culture of millions, etc.? One man, nine deaths. What are we up to now with the religion of peace? The Forumosa hypocrites punditry are strangely mute on this in the main, or when they do comment, it's to make apologies and excuses.


Thank you for that spectacular expression of irrational hatred for Muslims and also concern trolling for the rest of the world. Lol.
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Re: Brexit

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 28 Jul 2016, 10:47

headhonchoII wrote:Talking about strangely mute, there's an active thread with the title

'Stupid, racist Australians'.

Thought you might like to check it out. For one reason or another. :lol:


Maybe there should be one called shills for the globalist elite that you might want to check out.
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Re: Brexit

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 28 Jul 2016, 10:51

Mucha Man wrote:
GuyInTaiwan wrote:
Mucha Man wrote:
GuyInTaiwan wrote:...Stop concern trolling everyone that you care about what happens in the best interests of the English when it's pretty clear you have an irrational hatred of them.


I'm going to use this exact line, with a few minor changes, next time you go on about the need for Islam to reform.


Because obviously the English were killing the Irish just last week...

Nice false equivalency.


You need to stop using stock phrases for everything. Makes you look trollish.


Doesn't make it untrue just because you use one of your trollish stock phrases.

I'm not concerned about what's in the best interests of Muslims. I'm concerned about what's in the best interests of the rest of the world, particularly the West, that has been suffering them for well over a millennium.

Since we're talking about your excuses for that religion, remember when Dylann Roof killed nine people and all the outrage, the flags and monuments coming down, the attack on an entire culture of millions, etc.? One man, nine deaths. What are we up to now with the religion of peace? The Forumosa hypocrites punditry are strangely mute on this in the main, or when they do comment, it's to make apologies and excuses.


Thank you for that spectacular expression of irrational hatred for Muslims and also concern trolling for the rest of the world. Lol.


Nice deflection. Again, one guy kills nine people; total hysteria on the left. How many are we up to this week for the religion of peace? Yet the usual apologists on the left fall into lock step. You're losing control of the narrative, but you keep doubling down.

Also, nice false equivalency again. I'm not simultaneously telling everyone how much I hate the rest of the world and hypocritically trying to pretend I actually care about them.

Thank you for that spectacular expression of disingenuous rhetoric though. Lol.
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Re: Brexit

Postby Mr He » 28 Jul 2016, 23:51

rowland wrote:We interrupt this flamewar for some breaking news...

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/693193 ... ll-readers

A NEW Daily Express online poll has revealed that 98 per cent of respondents - 3,548 people - want the historic Brexit vote to be enacted now instead of Britain being embroiled in months or years of talks with Brussels bureaucrats.


But how?

Former Tory cabinet minister John Redwood has led a cross party group of MPs which has come up with a plan to get Britain out of the EU “in just a matter of weeks”.

The simple solution, also backed by Labour Leave, would be to trigger article 50 by repealing the 1972 European Communities Act and then informing the EU that the UK is no longer a member but intends to trade tariff free.

If the EU then decides to impose tariffs then Britain would respond but because the UK has a trade deficit with the EU of almost £24 billion a trade war would be more damaging to European countries especially Germany which could lose its biggest car market.


Read - just read - the Daily Express. They are a xenophobic rag catering to the part of the population preferring short sentences and certainties.

The suggestion will be a disaster for the UK. EU leaders would by then with glee embark on project pain.

That said, it will end like this, according to the bookies:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... 1469720868
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Re: Brexit

Postby Winston Smith » 29 Jul 2016, 06:38

Mr He wrote:. . . That said, it will end like this, according to the bookies:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... 1469720868


Bookies giving most likely odds to Theresa May NEVER triggering Article 50


Yet more proof that voting is the opiate of the people. Once it wears off it's as if it never happened. Before this is all over The Man is going to have to make voting mandatory.
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Re: Brexit

Postby headhonchoII » 29 Jul 2016, 07:38

That 'paper' is glorified bog roll with ink on it.

What sey you folks?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60786.html

Singling Ms May out as one of those who helped create such a ‘hostile environment’, the report recalls that in 2012, Ms May, the then Home Secretary, used a newspaper interview to declare: “The aim is to create here in Britain a really hostile environment for illegal migration.”


They basically reiterate the point I have made previously that May has pursued some quite extreme policies in the recent past (and also is no friend of the poor..preventing British people and their families from moving home from overseas if they didn't earn quite a high minimum figure..also make you wait six months to bring them in).
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Re: Brexit

Postby Winston Smith » 29 Jul 2016, 08:12

headhonchoII wrote:That 'paper' is glorified bog roll with ink on it.

What sey you folks?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60786.html

Singling Ms May out as one of those who helped create such a ‘hostile environment’, the report recalls that in 2012, Ms May, the then Home Secretary, used a newspaper interview to declare: “The aim is to create here in Britain a really hostile environment for illegal migration.”


They basically reiterate the point I have made previously that May has pursued some quite extreme policies in the recent past (and also is no friend of the poor..preventing British people and their families from moving home from overseas if they didn't earn quite a high minimum figure..also make you wait six months to bring them in).


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A shifty-eyed harridan if ever there were one.

What I continue to not get is how the post-Brexit "explosion of hate" towards Poles, Germans and other non-English-speaking Europeans in Britain is racism. Chauvinism, bigotry maybe but racism? Surely that's just dog whistle rhetoric.
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Re: Brexit

Postby headhonchoII » 29 Jul 2016, 08:30

Well the lines are blurry, it's more xenophobia than racism but the two often overlap.

I'm not saying I agree with everything in the article,
I just got annoyed when people tried to use their 'racial' prejudice against my origin to try and make it sound like its a one man crusade or something.

This article points out that it's a BIG talking point in the UK and it's been brewing for years.
Not saying it's the worst place out there by a long shot, but the trend was certainly negative compared over recent years.

Governments have a responsibility to show the lines of acceptable behavior, when they start using 'us' and 'them' rhetoric and images you know things have gone a bit rotten.

There's something WRONG with a person who would do this to the citizens they are supposed to look after!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... eu-partner

British citizens must earn more than £18,600 to bring over a non-EU spouse, rising to £22,400 if they have a child who does not have British citizenship, and an additional £2,400 for each subsequent child.

Critics argue that the law, introduced in July 2012, penalises 43% of the UK population and means British citizens in full-time employment on the minimum wage cannot enjoy the right to live with their families in the UK.
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Re: Brexit

Postby OrangeOrganics » 29 Jul 2016, 17:08

This really is a wonderful thread for excellent misinformation on the UK. Like the Onion or something
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