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AI now consistantly shoots down experienced fighter pilots in simulation

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AI now consistantly shoots down experienced fighter pilots in simulation

Postby hansioux » 29 Jun 2016, 11:17

It's not just Go or Counter Strike anymore. Now neural-network AIs really are getting close to being skynet...

http://www.popsci.com/ai-pilot-beats-ai ... SOC&dom=fb

A pilot A.I. developed by a doctoral graduate from the University of Cincinnati has shown that it can not only beat other A.I.s, but also a professional fighter pilot with decades of experience. In a series of flight combat simulations, the A.I. successfully evaded retired U.S. Air Force Colonel Gene "Geno" Lee, and shot him down every time. In a statement, Lee called it "the most aggressive, responsive, dynamic and credible A.I. I've seen to date."

And "Geno" is no slouch. He's a former Air Force Battle Manager and adversary tactics instructor. He's controlled or flown in thousands of air-to-air intercepts as mission commander or pilot. In short, the guy knows what he's doing. Plus he's been fighting A.I. opponents in flight simulators for decades.


Well, maybe not neural-network?

The secret to ALPHA's superhuman flying skills is a decision-making system called a genetic fuzzy tree, a subtype of fuzzy logic algorithms.

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the A.I. can calculate the best maneuvers in a complex, dynamic environment, over 250 times faster than its human opponent can blink.


So I guess dogfights is a lot simpler than Go.
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Re: AI now consistantly shoots down experienced fighter pilots in simulation

Postby Tempo Gain » 29 Jun 2016, 18:19

This is one of the reasons the US cut back F-22 orders so much. F-35 has a basically different mission, but will probably get similar treatment.
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Re: AI now consistantly shoots down experienced fighter pilots in simulation

Postby M. Ando » 30 Jun 2016, 15:30

Popular science.... neural networks... sigh...

A pilot A.I. developed by a doctoral graduate from the University of Cincinnati has shown that it can not only beat other A.I.s, but also a professional fighter pilot with decades of experience.


The whole thing is about one specific situation, with fixed parameters (Plane, payload, radar, 4ai vs2ai or 4ai vs 1ai + 1human).
The retired Colonel gentleman is of course with Psibernetix Inc., the responsible company.
The CEO of which, is of course the above "doctoral graduate from the University of Cincinnati".

The interesting part seems to be about the ALPHA algorithm in combination with EVE (another Psibernetix product), am I smelling bacon?

gotta love the embedded clickbait style/prose and readers actually believing it....
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Re: AI now consistantly shoots down experienced fighter pilots in simulation

Postby hansioux » 30 Jun 2016, 16:54

M. Ando wrote:
gotta love the embedded clickbait style/prose and readers actually believing it....


they already have the AF's funding, so unless they are trying to get foreign funding, do they really benefit from the publicity stunt?

http://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/gene ... 000144.pdf

Their original journal paper on the project
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Re: AI now consistantly shoots down experienced fighter pilots in simulation

Postby M. Ando » 30 Jun 2016, 18:52

I was referring to popular science magazine, it is approximately two finger's breadth away from the lifestyle anus that is e.g. "the verge".
At least the letter readily admits to it product....

Yeah, I skipped through the pdf before. How do know if they have public funding?

Doubt they get public funding (if any, seed aside), two AF guys being co-authors means nothing. If anything, Psi inc might have been forced to pay em (their labs) for testing (using their names), also if this was funded by the AF they would have mentioned it in the "paper". Just try to read the last page -it's pure infomercial - designed to be copied and pasted into some government official's budget draft.

The whole exposure thing is definitely valuable to a company founded little over two years ago :)
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Re: AI now consistantly shoots down experienced fighter pilots in simulation

Postby finley » 30 Jun 2016, 23:42

hansioux wrote:Now neural-network AIs really are getting close to being skynet...

If a machine - a terminator - can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too. :bow:

As for the above couple of posts, I would imagine it's not technically impossible. The machine has an advantage in that it is completely unaffected by G-forces, so it could easily out-manoeuvre a human. Also, humans learn skills as a palette of mix-n-match patterns, so a human pilot may actually be quite predictable. The 3D navigation part is undergraduate stuff.
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