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How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

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How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby Andrew0409 » 06 Jul 2016, 12:55

I just read the recent CPI report compared to last month. While most countries CPI increase due to energy costs, we are up about 1% pretty much all due to fruits of all things haha. Are companies in the US just completely taking advantage of lack of competition or is Taiwan's utility subsidized or something. It's literally 2-3x lower compared living in the US.
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Re: How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby nonredneck » 06 Jul 2016, 21:13

Are you comparing price per unit or the total bill?

American salaries are higher, health care insurance is more expensive, and probably the equipment is better maintained, so that accounts for some of the cost which I would expect to result in higher cost per unit.

For the absolute amount, Taiwanese places are smaller, don't have lawns to water, and people eat out a lot. I would think that results in lower utility usage.
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Re: How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby Abacus » 10 Jul 2016, 12:26

I believe that Taiwan subsidizes the utility prices. The fees (per unit used) are really low AFAIK.
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Re: How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby tommy525 » 10 Jul 2016, 13:19

Taiwan = the benefits of a demo-socialist state ! It's got more then one party to be rid of the "socialist" label. But it does have a lot of govt run institutions. LIke the POWER COMPANY is govt run and that is AWESOME.

Prices are "controlled" in the sense that they are looked at in Taiwan by the govt. And Taiwan has highly socialized medicine (an awesome thing).
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Re: How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby headhonchoII » 10 Jul 2016, 13:44

Government subsidizes electricity supply by lumping debt onto Taipower. Taipower uses cheap nasty power cables all over the mountains and riversides.
Taipower often uses the pavements for its transformer boxes.
Very little extra carbon tax or renewables subsidy seems to be applied. No VAT on Bill.
Taipower uses a lot of cheap coal to generate electricity.
Taipower can requisition land cheaply and get plant approval through central
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Re: How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby afterspivak » 10 Jul 2016, 16:55

Taipower also dumps its low-level nuclear waste next to the homes of Tao people in Lanyu (aka Orchid Island)--something it has done since the early 1980s without consultation or consent. After years of promising to relocate this waste, it continues to target indigenous communities (notably Daren in Taidong). The burden of this "low cost" continues to be carried by some of the least privileged people in the nation.

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Re: How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby rowland » 10 Jul 2016, 18:20

Do we know that the costs are in fact low? Government subsidies are very effective at hiding the true cost of things. They trick the gullible into paying high taxes and thinking they're getting free stuff.
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Re: How does Taiwan keep utility costs so low?

Postby Mucha Man » 11 Jul 2016, 09:53

rowland wrote:Do we know that the costs are in fact low? Government subsidies are very effective at hiding the true cost of things. They trick the gullible into paying high taxes and thinking they're getting free stuff.


Yes, rowland we know that. Taiwan has low electrical rates and low taxes.
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