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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby *monkey* » 22 Jul 2016, 12:26

A lot of fire safety stuff in Taiwan is just nonsensical - like those abseiling kits installed in many buildings.

They take ages to set up and are dangerous to use even in ideal (daylight / no fire) situations.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby M. Ando » 22 Jul 2016, 15:29

Well, people here like to feel safe inside...

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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby elgemo » 22 Jul 2016, 19:46

I still want to understand why the bus has not been stopped by the driver while emitting a lot of smoke. He did not even change to the emergency lane.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby aphasiac » 24 Jul 2016, 08:03

Any possibility that the fire was caused by someone smoking on the bus? Either passenger near the front or driver?
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby Icon » 24 Jul 2016, 13:20

elgemo wrote:I still want to understand why the bus has not been stopped by the driver while emitting a lot of smoke. He did not even change to the emergency lane.


He tried. As he was pulling in, something happened and he lost control, veering to the left and bouncing off crashing to the right. He was probably unconscious from the fumes before the crash, as he died of smoke inhalation.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby Icon » 24 Jul 2016, 13:23

aphasiac wrote:Any possibility that the fire was caused by someone smoking on the bus? Either passenger near the front or driver?


Unless they were carrying open gallons of gasoline or any other flammable substance in the front and that's where the cigarette fell in...doubtful.

Most cigarette started fires stay on the surface. This inferno was fueled by something stronger, fiercer.

It overcame the bus in less than a minute.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby headhonchoII » 24 Jul 2016, 13:59

It's been really hot, probably some propellant ignited like aromatic oils or a can of some spray was paced in the wrong place. That is unless the engine itself just caught fire , which would be the most likely explanation if it was located at the front of the bus.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby Icon » 24 Jul 2016, 14:09

headhonchoII wrote:It's been really hot, probably some propellant ignited like aromatic oils or a can of some spray was paced in the wrong place. That is unless the engine itself just caught fire , which would be the most likely explanation if it was located at the front of the bus.


Nope. Engine at the back.

Seriously, they tested the seats, even with the inner fiam exposed. They can't explain how the fire spread so fast.

It did burn at a high temperature. Extremely.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby nonredneck » 24 Jul 2016, 21:28

something in the luggage bay might have caught on fire.

sad part is even if they figure out the cause, the Taiwanese won't do anything to prevent this from happening in the future. Some face saving law that isn't actually enforced might happen, but that's probably it.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby Icon » 24 Jul 2016, 22:02

Couple of unconfirmed developments:
1. A suspicious recording in which the ones who refitted the bus warn of deadly danger due to inadequate materials

2. They seem to have found two bottles of fuel in the luggage compartment. Why were they there is open to speculation.

And they insist the emergency door should have opened...
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