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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby schwarzwald » 25 Jul 2016, 14:05

Was it a crime and not an accident?

"The Taoyuan District Prosecutors Office disclosed Sunday that investigators had found five plastic containers on the bus that tested positive for gasoline and said arson could not be ruled out."

http://focustaiwan.tw/news/asoc/201607250005.aspx?
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby nonredneck » 25 Jul 2016, 14:20

I would vote incompetence. Likely the gas was there for emergencies, probably improperly stored (either bad container or not properly grounded) and something ignited it while the bus was driving.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby SuperS54 » 25 Jul 2016, 14:59

nonredneck wrote: Likely the gas was there for emergencies


What type of emergency would require 5 containers of gasoline on a diesel fuelled bus?!
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby nonredneck » 25 Jul 2016, 16:29

SuperS54 wrote:
nonredneck wrote: Likely the gas was there for emergencies


What type of emergency would require 5 containers of gasoline on a diesel fuelled bus?!


The article says "gasoline". Technically, gasoline is not diesel, but I have heard people use it to refer to both types informally ("I need to get some gas." even if the car is diesel). So if the article means gasoline and not diesel, then I would have to wonder why too.

Maybe the driver or tour guide is transporting some gas home that they found at a cheaper price than where they live?

I would really be surprised if the blaze was intentional. Who would want to kill Chinese tourists, a driver, and a tour guide?
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby Icon » 25 Jul 2016, 16:32

SuperS54 wrote:
nonredneck wrote: Likely the gas was there for emergencies


What type of emergency would require 5 containers of gasoline on a diesel fuelled bus?!


It should be translated as a fuel of some sorts. Inflamable liquid of some kind. As I said a page before, still under investigation.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby hsinhai78 » 25 Jul 2016, 21:06

nonredneck wrote:I would voteincompetence Taiwanese safety awareness. Likely the gas was there for emergencies, probably improperly stored (either bad container or not properly grounded) and something ignited it while the bus was driving.


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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby nonredneck » 28 Jul 2016, 11:47

Sure to inspire confidence in the tourist industry

Sixty percent of buses fail inspections
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003651939
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby Icon » 28 Jul 2016, 14:02

nonredneck wrote:Sure to inspire confidence in the tourist industry

Sixty percent of buses fail inspections
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003651939


As one of the talk show hosts explained, it is our mothers, our grandmothers, our neighbors, who almost every weekend take the tour buses on trips organized by the community. Think company trips, where people take their families and pets as well. Everyone uses these double deckers. Heck, company buses that pick up people say in Xindian and deliver them, to their factories/workplaces in Neihu or Taoyuan. All are plagued with the same problems. So this matter affects both tourists and local Taiwanese.

How many times I have been at the microphone on a tour bus guiding a group of foreign especialists on courses or other official business...and those things do climb up the hills say of Wulai or Jiufen, foreign cargo onboard, through passages narrow for a scooter...

OK, so aside Guokuanghao, and I think Lion Travel, who else has 100%, intact, virgin, not tampered with buses?
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby hsinhai78 » 28 Jul 2016, 17:52

Icon wrote:
nonredneck wrote:Sure to inspire confidence in the tourist industry

Sixty percent of buses fail inspections
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/a ... 2003651939


As one of the talk show hosts explained, it is our mothers, our grandmothers, our neighbors, who almost every weekend take the tour buses on trips organized by the community. Think company trips, where people take their families and pets as well. Everyone uses these double deckers. Heck, company buses that pick up people say in Xindian and deliver them, to their factories/workplaces in Neihu or Taoyuan. All are plagued with the same problems. So this matter affects both tourists and local Taiwanese.

How many times I have been at the microphone on a tour bus guiding a group of foreign especialists on courses or other official business...and those things do climb up the hills say of Wulai or Jiufen, foreign cargo onboard, through passages narrow for a scooter...

OK, so aside Guokuanghao, and I think Lion Travel, who else has 100%, intact, virgin, not tampered with buses?


Precisely. But every few years a busload full of people burns to death in Taiwan. Society does not care - just as society does not care about people trapped in their apartments during a fire or 3 children riding on a scooter without a helmet. Human life is not assigned a high value here. Sad but true.
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Re: Tour bus tragedy

Postby headhonchoII » 28 Jul 2016, 18:08

Bunch of old people burned to death a month ago in A local nursing home, barely registered on the news.
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