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Election 2016

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Re: Election 2016

Postby cfimages » 28 Jul 2016, 20:24

Well jimgeraghty is obviously not the smartest cookie.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby rowland » 28 Jul 2016, 22:17

The Potemkin conference? Bernie bros allege the DNC seats are being packed with phonies... as in not actually delegates:

http://www.infowars.com/bernie-delegate ... ake-unity/

In another video, a man interviewed by a Bernie delegate admits to being a seat filler for the DNC.

Suspicions that the Democrats were hiring seat-fillers to pad out the audience grew after a posting on Philly Craigslist entitled Actors Needed For National Convention.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby rowland » 28 Jul 2016, 22:23

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/0 ... idiculous/

Philadelphia Police say seven people were arrested shortly before 11 p.m. after entering a perimeter fence into a restricted area.

At least one protester was captured on video lighting a flag on fire and waving it in the air, while many others shoved the perimeter fence as police pushed back.


Unity!

(Although it does support their thesis that a border wall wouldn't work.)
Big government is for those who can't handle freedom. Political correctness is for those who can't handle reality.

Gun-free zones are where the gun violence happens. Ban gun-free zones before many more get killed. Also, gun violence in Europe is as bad as in US, and getting worse.

The most bigoted people in the world insist that they are the most open-minded, the cruelest people in the world insist that they are the most compassionate, and the most illogical insist that they are the most logical.

Just because Al Gore says there's a planetary emergency doesn't mean there's a planetary emergency. And just because somebody says it's science doesn't mean it's science.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby MikeN » 29 Jul 2016, 18:12

Interesting story about at least part of how the "Lying Hillary " meme was created

From the front page of the Style section of the Washington Post in 1999, when Hillary hadn't yet announced whether she was running for Senator
On yesterday's "Today" show, the first lady played her familiar wink-and-a-nod, maybe-I'm-running-maybe-I'm-not shtick with host Katie Couric, who asked Clinton first about the New York Knicks—currently battling in the NBA playoffs—and then about the Yankees.

"Are you a big Knicks fan?" Couric asked.

"I'm becoming a big Knicks fan," the first lady responded, laughing.

"More and more every day, huh?" Couric parried.

And then a sleepy-eyed nation collectively hurled.


They did? At the fact that she was obviously making a joke about politicians claiming to love whatever was hometown?
But then she said this, which became the Big Story out of the interview:

Later, Clinton asserted that she'd "always been a Yankees fan." Couric correctly challenged her, saying she thought the first lady, a native of Illinois, was a Chicago Cubs fan.

"I am a Cubs fan," Clinton said. "But I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees."

Like everyone else at the time, I thought that this was typically blatant political pandering- though nowhere near as blatant as, say, Carly Fiorina rooting for the Hawkeyes against her own alma mater Stanford Cardinals in the fucking Rose Bowl, one month before the Iowa caucuses.

Of course if the reporter from the Post had done some deep research, say by reading his own newspaper's archives about Clinton and sports (Al Gore had already invented the Internet by then) he might have come across these two items.

One about how the White House threw a party back in 1994 for Ken Burns' new documentary on the history of baseball:

RADCLIFFE (9/12/94): Among the picnic's other attractions, which included a be-your-own-trading-card photo booth and standard ballpark fare of popcorn and hotdogs (plus more elaborate cuisine), was Hillary Clinton, who hit a couple of balls in the batting cage.

"That was a great swing," Burns told her. "Did you get some batting practice before the screening, just to warm up?"

Mrs. Clinton, who as a kid was a "big-time" fan of the Chicago Cubs and New York Yankees and "understudied" Ernie Banks and Mickey Mantle, smiled.


Another one, a profile in the Post from 1993:
While her girlfriends had crushes, stared at boys, padded their bras, Hillary talked about politics, Sputnik and sports. "We used to sit on the front porch and solve the world's problems," said Rick Ricketts, her neighbor and friend since they were 8. "She also knew all the players and stats, batting averages—Roger Maris, Mickey Mantle—everything about baseball."


Gee, who did these guys play for?

These stories came out in 1994 and 1993. At that time the Senator from New York that Hillary replaced was Daniel Moynihan, who was re-elected in 1994 and didn't announce his retirement until 1998 (even though he had a lock on the seat if he wanted to run again).

Basically, Hillary was a Cubs fan, and belonged to that very substantial group of Chicagoans whose favourite teams are the Cubs and whoever is beating the White Sox- in those days, the Yankees (of course a lot of Sox fans are the reverse.) The Yankees of Maris and Mantle were one of the (unfortunately many) great Yankee teams ever.
http://dailyhowler.blogspot.tw/2016/07/ ... s.html?m=0

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