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The EU immigrant mayhem thread

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Re: The EU immigrant mayhem thread

Postby Winston Smith » 27 Jul 2016, 18:37

It's pretty clueless letting in millions of collateral damagees and expecting nothing but gratitude. Much like that look of befuddlement on the face of the liberator of Iraq when he was driven out of Baghdad for the last time by that hail of flying shoes.
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Re: The EU immigrant mayhem thread

Postby Mucha Man » 27 Jul 2016, 21:09

GuyInTaiwan wrote:I will look forward to your reports from the banlieues.

Also, why don't you feel safe in Malaysia? Its intentional homicide rate is actually lower than that of Taiwan. (2.3 per 100,000 vs 3.0 per 100,000)


This is not a free society and the media is heavily censored (dozens of outlets were closed this year and the continued harassment and jailing of journalists and politicians critical of the government mean that stats have to be taken with a grain of salt. Basically this place is not much different from China and is getting less free by the month. Anyone now criticizing the prime minister over 1Malaysia faces a travel ban.

Anyway, as for safety, we had a home invasion 2 years ago. Four men with knives. The same thing happened to half the houses in my neighborhood over a 1.5 year period. Violent crime is really common here: car jackings, muggings, home invasions. No one goes out walking at night in residential areas and even joggers and bikers have to be careful as they get attacked often. A usual pattern if for two guys on a motorcycle to come up behind you and smash you on the head with something to stun you. Or they push you into a ditch. Almost everyone you speak to has had a violent criminal act against them or knows someone very close to them. I have not seen this level outside of big US cities.

No one feels safe whether in the city or even in better neighborhoods such as the one we live in.
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Re: The EU immigrant mayhem thread

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 28 Jul 2016, 10:58

Mucha Man wrote:
GuyInTaiwan wrote:I will look forward to your reports from the banlieues.

Also, why don't you feel safe in Malaysia? Its intentional homicide rate is actually lower than that of Taiwan. (2.3 per 100,000 vs 3.0 per 100,000)


This is not a free society and the media is heavily censored (dozens of outlets were closed this year and the continued harassment and jailing of journalists and politicians critical of the government mean that stats have to be taken with a grain of salt. Basically this place is not much different from China and is getting less free by the month. Anyone now criticizing the prime minister over 1Malaysia faces a travel ban.

Anyway, as for safety, we had a home invasion 2 years ago. Four men with knives. The same thing happened to half the houses in my neighborhood over a 1.5 year period. Violent crime is really common here: car jackings, muggings, home invasions. No one goes out walking at night in residential areas and even joggers and bikers have to be careful as they get attacked often. A usual pattern if for two guys on a motorcycle to come up behind you and smash you on the head with something to stun you. Or they push you into a ditch. Almost everyone you speak to has had a violent criminal act against them or knows someone very close to them. I have not seen this level outside of big US cities.

No one feels safe whether in the city or even in better neighborhoods such as the one we live in.


What do you think is driving all of this (both at the macro, but particularly the micro, level)?
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Re: The EU immigrant mayhem thread

Postby bob_honest » 28 Jul 2016, 11:30

fred smith wrote:For a nation whose citizens have certainly spent a great deal of time expressing their moral outrage over US unilateralism, one really struggles with Germany and Merkel. Welcome to 1 million plus immigrants without consulting ANY nation in the EU. Total disregard for the needs of the people of existing EU nations that suffered much due to economic and financial dislocation but plenty to offer non EU members in terms of money, support, etc. Then, a total and humiliating backdown without backing down but essentially (what one reporter called) "prostituting" one''s nation but by paying "the client" to stop the flow of immigrants that you, yourself, called for and welcomed as an opportunity. I really REALLY have to struggle to understand given these capers and mad-cap adventures how anyone in Europe (certainly Germany) can smugly criticize someone like Donald Trump when so many more "respected" leaders and intellectual "bright lights" have gotten us to this scenario all while demanding that there be NO DISCUSSION (verboten!) of cultural or religious differences and what kind of policies might need to be implemented to minimize or deal with predictable results such as these. I really wish one German who used to post regularly on this form in virulent critiques of the US to plan for the aftermath of the invasion of Iraq were here today to share with us high moral smugness regarding how "Germans know best." It would be funny and enjoyable to poke fun in a fit of schadenfreude but none of this is funny at all. And rather than wake up to discuss how or what to do about the problem, most still engage in outraged sanctimoniousness when the subject is even broached. Still some lessons to be learned me thinks. Group think on multiculturalism and "tolerance" are hard to unlearn.


Yeah, Merkel criticizing Trump for bad political ideas is like ... I dunno .... Hitler criticizing Jeremy Clarkson for being cruel.
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